One needs larger than \(N=1\) to establish these effects -- which is why case studies are so ineffective at doing so. Craig Keener: Greg Spencer is a case of this. And the person came back after prayer and a number of other cases. ), This was an instantaneous healing of all of her symptoms and all of her illness to the point where 31 years later she's completely healthy, Strobel said. Bizarrely, her calves were inflated and her once-atrophied muscles worked again and thats not all. Given the number of miracle claims, and the bold claims of Christians throughout these videos, and the proliferation of cameras in people's pockets, there should be thousands of convincing videos of miracles. Synder's miraculous healing , which unfolded more than 30 years ago, was apparently so shocking that even her doctors have written about her seemingly impossible medical . What is that? "[5], In 2011, Cleveland.com reported Barbara R. Snyder's total compensation for the year of 2009 was $778,874.[6]. aliens, homeopathy). [] why are they not healed if the context matters and we're defining a miracle as you know divine intervention not just a highly improbable event then how come there's no divine intervention there and if the answer is well god works in mysterious ways who knows well you know that's kind of a hand wave, Elijah: i think also calling a handwave kind of undermines something is imagine you caught a murderer and uh you saw him shoot a guy and he goes well i i haven't shot anyone before in my life um is that what we're trying to show is these are real examples i can't explain the soldier coming home that that makes perfect sense but what i can say is there was a blind lady and she got prayer and her eyes opened up and she had macular degeneration they can verify that before and afterwards and i'm not sure it's rational to call those uh uh just coincidences. Strobel went on to explain that he interviewed skeptics and believers, alike, and included their perspectives in The Case for Miracles. How is an epistemically responsible thing to do? As I've said before, the fact that there are no videos of this sort is strong evidence against the veracity of miracles. If you thought you were miraculously cured, you'd have it tested every two weeks not waiting two years. And as a Christian I naturally did believe in miracles. [3] During Snyder's tenure as the university president, CWRU has overcome a $20 million budget deficit, increased fundraising by nearly $60 million, and increased research dollars by more than $15 million. Why not? And, in fact, one doctor described her as being one of the most hopelessly ill patients he'd ever encountered.". That said, before writing The Case for Miracles, Strobel was ambivalent about whether these miracles still happen today. "So, we know that at least 450 Christians began praying for her, because they wrote letters saying, 'We're praying for you.'". ago Is it possible she was misdiagnosed -- it wasn't MS, so looking for an MS recovery may be misdirected? When his wife prayed, having been told that he was gone, the heart monitor "sprang back to life" and then the doctors were able to revive him. If you want to, for our listeners, if you want to read a little bit more about it Craig's written a fairly lengthy book on the whole, the whole narrative of that called Impossible Love. into our next chapter, said McRobbie, who is also the president of Indiana What problems are you interested in? Also, this condition is known to come and go in some patients. Craig Keener: Yeah, and by the time Yeah and eventually it was over a 1000. But you in the west, you have this wonderful medical technology. Lee Strobels Miracles talk (25 minute segment), Study of the Therapeutic Effects of Proximal Intercessory Prayer (STEPP) on Auditory and Visual Impairments in Rural Mozambique, In conversation with Digital Gnosis (Nathan Ormond), Street Epistemology with Eddie (Deep Discussions), Thoughts on the Randal Rauser vs. Skepticism is basically that we proportion our belief to the evidence, and we've found (through science) that to do it we need to disbelieve most claims, that we need to acknowledge our biases, and to recognize that even the scientific process is limited. Craig Keener: Yes. maybe we can study this" That's how a lot of science is done, it starts with "oh wow, that's weird" and then we can go and start testing it but theists don't seem to even want to take that next step. The emotional language in the paper is a little unusual for a medical journal, and seems a bit sensationalist. He had asthma all his life. Is it possible she was misdiagnosed -- it wasn't MS, so looking for an MS recovery may be misdirected? It is a reasonable question to ask -- how much evidence is enough? They are claiming there is a causal effect, they are claiming that these things happen regularly enough to be observed, yet they want to hide behind the idea that it is somewhat random and not actually try to test it. She is the former president of Case Western Reserve University. You look at the seven churches of Asia in the Book of Revelation. These responses just seem so, I don't know, juvenile to me like it's like they haven't thought about these issues. Now obviously those numbers, none of us would say that all of those can only be explained as a miracle. A gymnast back in high school, Barbara hadn't walked in seven years. So I asked Antoinette Malumbay, "How long was it that Terese wasn't breathing?" It involves Barbara Snyder and took place nearly 30 years ago. Check out https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/?s=control&category_name=&submit=Search to see the value of doing controlled studies in the field of medicine -- and where it goes wrong when people don't do this. And she began dancing around. However, it is a fallacy to say that, because we could in principle have better evidence, we therefore do not have good or sufficient evidence. And the way we proceed is that we use medical science to eliminate the six and we can't really confirm or disconfirm the last remaining one but because we eliminated all of the alternatives that must be the one right or at least it's reasonable to believe that this is the one -- it's the best explanation. Can you give me some examples? One of the first widely publicized studies was by Dr. Randolph Byrd, published in 1988 in the peer-reviewed Southern Medical Journal, she said. Someone in the chat asked "do all of Keener's cases differ as much from what actually was reported to what was reported by him?" It was a prospective, randomized, double-blinded, controlled study of four hundred subjects. Dying M.S. Now, Strobel, whose personal story was told through the Pure Flix feature film, book and documentary titled The Case for Christ, has released, The Case for Miracles, a new investigative book that relies on facts, interviews and studies to further explore spiritual matters. And when you dig in and you start interviewing some of the people and looking at some of the medical documentation, we're not talking about a little bit of evidence. or perhaps it resolved in 2 years, and they never checked for a long time, only checking right after the prayer 16 years later. #religion. There may be a difference between the way they look at things now vs the way they looked at it at the time of the event -- which is perfectly explainable under naturalism. Her blindness, too, had been instantaneously healed. We use cookies to better understand website visitors, for advertising, and to offer you a better experience. my peers call to work on behalf of all of our institutions.. This male voice coming from the corner of the room where nobody was said, 'Get up my child and walk, Strobel recounted. And, in fact, one doctor described her as being one of the most hopelessly ill patients he'd ever encountered." This seems really strange, if we are to believe the magnitude of the healing -- she claims to have gone from nearly blind to nearly perfect instantaneously, yet doesn't get this checked out immediately? Barbaras impact on this university has been so broad and deep that we will not understand the full extent of her legacy for years and perhaps decades to come, Wyant said. The blind will see. One day, one of her friends called WMBI, which is the radio station in Chicago run by the Moody Bible Institute, and said, 'Pray for Barbara. This effect has been seen a lot, but a good example is the Rendelsham Forest UFO sighting where there is a big difference between the original reports and the later reports or the Barney and Betty Hill case of alien abduction where one can track the contamination of the story to popular media depictions of aliens. I had the pleasure of being a guest on the Real Seekers podcast and discussing / debating miracles with Matthew (atheist) and Dale (Christian) last week. She graduated from the University of Chicago School of Law, where she served as executive editor of the law review. Synder ended up in hospice care with a no-resuscitation order; she was nearly blind, her hands and body were curled and she had a tube in her throat to help her breath as well as a tube in her stomach to ensure proper nourishment. But at a time when higher education itself faces Then, on Pentecost Sunday, two of Synders friends read her letters from those praying for her. Western Reserves president has been the greatest professional privilege of my It's not [inaudible] a short book. Scott Rae: And then she made it safely to the U.S. and then you were reunited again. In the comment thread of my response, Caleb J writes. And he said because these precious people that never had a chance to be exposed to God's extravagant love, He works in extravagant ways to let them know. I mean I, at the beginning I was expecting to find some reports of different kinds of healings that had already been collected in the booked. DiSanto said that he would provide additional updates regarding the search You've done tremendous work on it that is a huge benefit to the Kingdom, not only with your technical biblical scholarship, but with this incredible stuff you've done on miracles. At least there is documentation published at https://seangeorge.com.au/my-story/medical-details/. You can see why these stories are powerful and you can see why people really get motivated by them nd so i think it is important to respond to them because of that. But after a while it just becomes so overwhelming, but I said, "You know, I'm too skeptical myself. You can received notifications daily or weekly. Dr. Craig Keener holds the F.M. Get the news that matters most delivered directly to your inbox. And then some months later war came to her hometown in [inaudible] and she had to flee again. Please open it and confirm your subscription. Not at all, given that all of the facts of his case fall within the known bounds of what is possible and observed, even if rare. After you lace up your boots, hit the trail. And she'd also been teaching some at the University there, but she had to flee the capital sick with malaria. Even if you said it had to be supernatural, how could you rule out Loki doing it, just for fun? Bad Apologetics Ep 20 - Miracles & even MORE even NEWER Resurrection evidence, Unbelievable? A legal scholar, Snyder was the first woman to serve as the Case Western's president. Further, the authors admit, although they do not disclose the data, that previous attempts to document response to the treatment in other populations have failed. In secular circles, well on the Internet at least, Atheists came out with critiques of it right away. But God often heals us here and yet when he does it we don't always recognize that it is God because of our world view here. Snyder, who became president of Case Western Reserve Craig Keener: Probably what surprised me the most was the real evidence for it. Craig Keener: Well everybody has a love story. After serving in several leadership positions at Moritz and within the central university, Barbara became OSUs interim executive vice president and provost in 2003 before securing that position on a permanent basis the following year. My initial thought was that , A physics problem from a practice AP test came to my attention, when my daughter was in AP physics this past spring. He has a Ph.D. and M.A. I think it also is evident that the theists aren't serious about studying these things, and are content to believe things on bad evidence. In fact, history is full of bizarre coincidences that get downright creepy . Any legitimate effect should be able to withstand this scrutiny (and more! He's effectively asked "look, according to your explanation we would expect miracles to occur actually in many more cases because god apparently has the the reasons and the motivation and the context for him to perform miracles there but he doesn't, so there's a plausibility issue there with with your explanation" Shermer's identified one aspect that seems to be accounted for poorly on the miracle explanation. I wrote about some of these cases in another post and I've written about miracles many times. Barbara Snyder (Barbara Cummiskey Snyder) healed from multiple sclerosis. This is incredibly compelling stuff. Following her M.S. Brian: Essentially Shermer's complaint about prayer being done and nothing happening is part what you would have in any kind of controlled study because you would have the case looking at all prayer events and which ones had effects and which ones didn't, that's the basic thing they seem unable to even grasp that idea and it shows a certain unwillingness to actually try to find the truth and to rule out these actual alternatives. Prior to that, she served as president of Case Western Reserve University from 2007 to 2020, where sheencouraged interdisciplinary excellence, catalyzed institutional collaboration, and reinvigorated alumni engagement and fundraising. Read Barbara's Blog for blog posts and speeches from the Presidenton prominent and emerging issues facing research universities and the broader higher education community. How can I help? You just wonder how legitimate are these miracle claims in the 21st century? Strobel said. He encountered scores of healings and other claims of the miraculous along the way, but there was one case in particular that truly blew his mind: the case of Barbara Snyder. Also we need to know what happens when there is no treatment as a control. All subjects demonstrated improvement from the intervention. She actually ended up being stranded in a third country for about eight months before she could get to the U.S., but the Lord did so many miracles along the way and we're grateful for this. Today we can point to solid finances, But there, the book is just full, both volumes, full of these remarkable stories like this. 2021 - All rights reserved. But again, it's a sign. I doubt Keener has tried to actually get this done beyond the anecdotal level. And just trying to stay ahead of the soldiers and the fighting. One can have compelling evidence even when a case could be rendered stronger with even more evidence. Craig Keener: Well I tried to get accounts from all over the world. Scott Rae: So how did, how did she become a war refugee? It doesn't matter whether the claim is religious or scientific, the same rules apply. "Barbara Snyder was diagnosed at the Mayo Clinic with multiple sclerosis. So it was just going to be a footnote, but as I researched it more and more it grew more and more. By signing up to the Blaze News newsletter you agree to receive electronic communications from Blaze Media that may sometimes include advertisements or sponsored content. I had heard the story before from my wife, but it was actually when I interviewed the, my wife's source, that I got the details. Scott Rae: Nabeel Qureshi, for the sake of our listeners who might not be aware of him, was one of the most, the most compelling apologists to Islam having converted to Christianity out of Islam himself. "It got to the point where she was dying. At any given time some member of the family was deathly sick from malaria or typhoid or something else. Medical science has come a long way recognizing the fact that humans are easily fooled, they see patterns and agency where there isn't any good evidence, and biology is messy enough that uncertainty is always something to consider. in social ethics from the University of Southern California, a Th.M. We wouldn't conclude that these things actually happened as reported, especially given the gaps in the timelines. the natural explanation -- some natural healing plus the imaging being unreliable, the secondary measurement said "approximately 6 feet" as opposed to 3ft, so the "approximately" is doing a lot of work, perhaps under extreme damage there is more healing, but we haven't seen this in other cases because of the rarity of the effect. For example it's obvious you'll get more miracle reports in Christian circles than, say, atheist circles even if miracles don't exist. It is suitable for those who love nice illustrations. Then he was prayed for and was instantly healed, could eat, and have his tubes removed. Strobel said that he has long believed that Jesus performed the miracles described in the Gospels. Further, she also has a twin sister! She actually had to have a breathing tube because even her diaphragm didn't work on its own. The situation was pretty hopeless until something quite shocking happened. Scott Rae: Because I mean by any medical definition she had died. So the first part of the answer is sort of true but trivial and also not what they've been doing but then the second part contradicts that by saying "just assume that it's true anyway and start praying for people." And so I guess my first question is, what motivated you to undertake that because your field has been pretty technical New Testament studies. I just was trying to write a footnote for my Acts Commentary because one of the arguments against the reliability of Acts, you know, one fifth of Acts or one third of Mark roughly, deal with miracles. Half received prayer; the other half didnt. President Barbara R. Snyder announced today that she will You should watch Pinecreek's reaction here -- it pretty much sums it up. Craig Keener: Yeah. And I talked with two of her doctors from the time and they both testified, "Yes, this is, there's no medical explanation for this." Scott Rae: Sounds like an amazing story. She was doing her work in history. Also there is this general trend of naturalism in which you are looked down upon if you believe that the supernatural can occur so there is this whole culture at play where the medical community is working against finding truth". Nine out of ten with prayer is the meaning of replicable, so I don't know what he really is thinking when he says miracles are not replicable. Her blindness, too, had been instantaneously healed. Sometimes running for their lives. Synder's miraculous healing, which unfolded more than 30 years ago, was apparently so shocking that even her doctors have written about her seemingly impossible medical turnaround. That's what he was praying for. It is interesting the Elijah seems to understand that we need evidence to believe a claim, that we need to weigh alternative hypotheses, but he seems to have no idea what a controlled study is or why it is necessary. It's not just a few people. Justin: why do you feel sympathetic to the view that what they're finding is evidence for supernatural healing rather than just extraordinary somewhat unexplained events ? You've written a lot of commentaries on the Gospels. It's not just about the priors, it's the fact that to be consistent, once you raise your prior for one sort of claim you're doing it for many others -- many claims that you probably don't want to accept. This is like the difference between theists asking skeptics to explain how the disciples ate fish with Jesus, when in reality what we have to explain is that we have a text that has a story where the disciples ate fish with Jesus. achievements during Snyders tenure include: Association of American Universities (AAU), Maltz Center donors, performers celebrate Phase II, School of Medicine graduate program information tabling event, Summer study abroad with CWRU faculty information session, New study reveals ketamine could be effective treatment for cocaine-use disorders, Get to know members of the National Pan-Hellenic Council at CWRU: Week 3, Begun with a $1 billion goal, it ultimately raised. I mean these were mainstream Evangelical Christians and anyway, some of the critiques, and actually some of the praises from the Christians showed that they hadn't actually read the book either. Scott Rae: -semi anti-supernatural vibes. Also, the theists show a profound lack of imagination in coming up with studies that can test the involvement of an agent, while ruling out other effects. If there's one thing I hope this film does for people that are inside of the Christian faith is that it makes them confident enough to go pray for sick people in impossible situations because that is a means to knowledge as well. Each of these is far harder than the rather trivial challenges to testing miracle claims. Barbara Snyder's healing from MS shocked doctors. I mean there was one person, it was so crazy. This time with them pushing her father, disabled father in a wheel barrel and they left a home that they would never see again and ended up basically in the forest, or villages in the forest, abandoned buildings, for the next year and a half. He has served in a variety of teaching and leadership roles, including a term as president of the Evangelical Theological Society in 2015. Keener gives a lot of waffle, and then some video of the woman that is thoroughly unconvincing. You're an expert on the life and teachings of Paul. and Duane Miller (healed from irrevocably damaged vocal chords). It's in American History, which is not, well there's a lot of Americans who can teach American History, so she especially teaches French. And it's all very well documented too. Yeah ,that's what Ii just asked you about! patient on hospice healed by Jesus. And in each case, it's a witness to God's Glory where God gives grace to overcome in different kinds of situations. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. "Barbara Snyder was diagnosed at the Mayo Clinic with multiple sclerosis. Barbara began her academic career as an assistant professor at Case Western Reserves School of Law, then joined the faculty of Moritz College of Law at The Ohio State University. I don't think that there's an abridged version of that coming out anytime soon. Christian news 1789; testimonies 1151; evangelism & outreach 1070; missions 993; Top Featured 862; encouragement 743; Tags. Nathan: I think what we're seeing here are the fruits of apologetics in some ways. This shows a profound lack of imagination on the part of the investigators, and I think shows their hand. If something is real, when we can more carefully observe it, it becomes easier to see not harder. As you may expect, the studio's ruse is eventually found out, Lina never makes movies again and Kathy becomes a star and happily hooks up with the leading man. This one is obviously ludicrous, but I think undermines the theists claims quite a lot. In his book, The Case for Miracles, evangelist Lee Strobel cites the miraculous healing of Barbara Snyder that took place nearly 30 years ago. ), but with the best they ever give us (like the cases above), the second you dig a little bit you find that all the evidence kind of vaporizes or there are plausible alternative explanations that take only a minute to come up with. Done! And even after CPR is stopped, there is an observed phenomenon of spontaneous recovery of heart activity after as much as 15 minutes, and his recovered after 10 minutes. When I lay out the evidence for the (alleged) miraculous phenomena in the latter half of the episode, I blitz through various case studies, scientific studies, and quotes which I said I would post references too here. He doesn't seem to understand the ways that people can fool themselves. View the profiles of people named Barbara Snyder. I want this post to be the place where I put as many of the specific miracle claims, the actual evidence presented, and some of the responses. It's always possible to ask for more (Couldn't more doctors have seen it? Thank you for being with us. "This male voice coming from the corner of the room where nobody was said, 'Get up, my child, and walk,'" Strobel recounted. How can I help? However studies also show about 80% of ER nurses and 64% of ER doctors believe lunar cycles affect patients' mental health, even though the data do not support such an effect. He already was on disability for this. Here I look into the papers he references in response. I'm your host, Scott Rae, Dean of Faculty and Professor of Christian Ethics at Talbot School of Theology at Biola University. it can be also given as a nice gift to your friends, relatives, boyfriend or girlfriend. Eventually I found some of it, but what surprised me was the dramatic nature of some of this. 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