No? I am saying for myself, I was taught and have higher business ethics then Scamway.Living my own dream, Freddy. hi, anybody can help but Amway. Using the toughest international qualification for Diamond (10000 points per leg), and assuming zero overlap between Diamonds and zero international sponsorship (both of which are not true), you could theoretically support 4000 qualifying Diamonds with only $4.3 billion in revenue (10000 points * 6 months * 6 legs * $3 per pv * 4000 diamonds). Ask your dad's friend to show you the ownership papers and his registration.If he's in Amway, he'll probably give you a lot of double-talk, and then pretend he didn't hear your questions. Its only the few legend high pins who managed to keep the bulk of tools money among themselves who make big money. They recognize winning card percentages, cost to play, table volatility, sunk loss, emotions, tendencies of other players, and play their cards accordingly, separating themselves from pride and ego. It is the largest multi-level marketing company in the world by revenue. I am looking for any Amway Diamond who has an open mind. Guess you don't listen to fucking good to the assholes in your Amway upline who tell you not to visit negative web pages like this one and never speak negative. Its about the only thing taught at Scamway meetings. Seeing the greedy diamonds giving their bullshit speeches, I wanted to vomit. That of course includes many couples, but it means at that point in time, with sales of around $8 billion, there was clearly more than 2000 qualifying Diamonds. Theyd have to be living on credit to bullshit ambots into what is a Diamond lifestyle. The assholes in the Amway upline will start screeching about never question upline and give you some bullshit that what's printed there is only "guidelines" and the real money runs in the gazillions of dollars rolling in each month. Being an adult I figured you and others would have realized this. You might love the fucking assholes in your Amway upline so much that you'd be happy to suck dick and kiss ass. No skin off my ass if you choose to believe a bunch of scamming lying Amway assholes or believe those who've lost money thanks to this scam. Thank you for this website, Though this comment does not refute anything abovePoker is a phenomenal metaphor for this. What about bankrupt Diamonds. A $10 bonus check means nothing if they paid out several hundred to get it. While technically it is possible Id say in reality it is not possible from a standing start. Nothing brings those Amway bastards more happiness than destroying other people's lives and bringing financial and emotional distress to others. Not everyone who signs up makes it, its all about how much effort you put. The same way that none of the money my down line spend goes to me. There are over 10,000 comments left on this blog over the years. Best of luck in tying the record, though!! An example is you we hate you cause your a hater and you are not passionate or have hope you dont have a life and you coulf go to hell and rott their. "Just like yourself I got started about a decade ago and I graduated top of my class and got multiple job offers. You probably would have better luck trying to sign up 5 seagulls to the Amway scam than you'd have signing up real people! Amway wouldn't print it out if it wasn't true, would they? Amway: The Untold Story Brig & Lita Hart vs. Amway et al. Shouldn't the FTC know that they are LYING about the income of this opportunity? Yes, it's the same fucking plan, that Bob, Steve, Al, and Jim have done the last several nights in a row. Enjoy it, Sheep._Jerry. It's all about confusing the ambot with the numbers. 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JUST DO IT. So if these fucking Amway assholes think Im broke then they are putting Amway Diamonds in the same category. They can connect you with successful people who can help explain how to build the business. They suck people money away and just make them fat with huge portions of junk. I have a list of every North American Diamond that has appeared in the Amagram since 1964. His numbers and claims just don't add up. Not interested.8. If they had their income would have gradually died off and theyd have lost their Double Diamond status. You're scum just like them. Cya at my McDonald's Anna :p. Theo - OMG. he is awake dipshit. Love it! Ambots can get angry, but they can't argue. Working 7 days a week non stop. Yeah that'll get me somewhere. That is a big red flag.. but do you know how it works? LOL! Amway does piss all when you complain to them about the upline or the various cult sects. Any one with and decency would look at this and see that these people commenting are either made up or are really not good people. the 12 billion annual revenue that is toted around by distributors is the total revenue for Alticor (parent company of Amway). Great Post, Anonymous. I had to buy the tapes too. Thank you for this blog. To warn everyone what people in Amway are really like. I feel bad for the people on here saying that they "TRIED" to work it, that means they never actually put the work in. Enjoy laid-back luxury on Oahu's sunny western coast in Ko Olina. Your local sponsor and upline know your situation way better than anyone on the internet can. But what a dilemma. I will back out of this deal most likely. The comment above yours is very typical of an Amway Christian. Anonymous - good on you for saying NO to Amway. If these two men had the blind faith that you and the millions or other sheep around the world do, wouldn't they just sign up in the same fashion you did? Anonymous - you better go counsel with the assholes in your Amway upline. They can't live an Amway Diamond millionaire lifestyle on only Amway income. In the year to August 31, 1993, Amway achieved revenue of $210 million, an increase of 9.7% over the previous year, and it posted a rise of 17.4% . They attend the first Bahama Rama with 13 Distributorships in celebration. But he is a charismatic guy who is very convincing isn't he.Just think about it for a second. Miss America takes on paid sponsorships as do other pageants as do many others that have nothing to do with pageants. You do realize that Amway's head office reads this blog. IT IS WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY,BUT WITH A GOOD TEAM,GOOD MENTER,SUCCESSFUL LEADER CAN HELP YOU TO SUCCESS IN THIS OPPORTUNITY.SO BE WITH SUCCESS TEAM. I say "prohibitively" because even getting ONE recruit is difficult. And thats income for 2 people. good luck with that one LOL!!!! Diamonds look back and say look at all he people I fucked over to get rich. That is where the real money is, and it only goes to a fdew select "A-list " diamonds. He tried to get me to join a couple of months back to which I said no. I wouldn't want to get back an already used container of lip gloss. Absolutely correct! Well, I dont think you will be setting any records.A lady in Sweden qualified diamond in 6 monthsI think she may have been in Double Diamond qualification by the 12 month mark. Amway has been great to me and my family. @AnonymousJuly 9, 2013 at 10:40 AMFirst you have established that you are a ridiculous, ignorant hypocrite, not duplicating your upline nor following their instructions that you should not visit so called "negative" websites. Hope you all have much success in life. Im pretty sure no one will miss you. They want a product. It's the only way to try to hold together a downline that is losing money month after month. But at the same time it's not for everyone. However, let's not forget the money one makes selling books and CDs and tickets to various functions. It is a unique business. You are for 45 years.I would rather the hope of an Amway business than the no hope of a job.Yes, there are very successful people working jobs but 95% of people are struggling.Amway is no different. But from the sound of your post you are still stuck working for someone who you have to answer to. CRAZY!! Inclusion on Amway Wiki does not mean they are requalifying at that level or even if they are still Amway Business Owners. LOL! The tools and seminars are a choice and are recommended because if you can learn from someone who has already been down a path not to go there, then it will save you time and money. As you pointed out, if the Ambot can't figure out the math no matter how many circles are drawn, all they can do is make stuff up and spread their lies everywhere they can think of. Now, the company has become the No. They do sell a lot of seminars and CDs though! Anonymous - I'd like to hear what a Diamond has to say about that too but we probably never won't! Trump has lost more money than most of us will ever see. That's why there is a 90 day money back guarantee so you can't be out anything. Show us your picture in Achieve Magazine, Diamond chaser. The business isn't perfect because people aren't perfect. AWA recommends new pin levels as Distributors flock to the opportunity and leaders build growth. I'd like to hear what the Diamonds have to say about that at one of those stupid, greed-driven WWDB functions. Before you go running your mouth on something you dont know about try getting some real facts, not your biased opinion. He is no longer involved in lying and scamming people. If you have capital to build a business then do so help the economy and build something of your own. And it takes 10 years to qualify. Furthermore, in 2009 Amway held celebrations of their 50th Anniversary and invited all qualified Diamonds and above to Las Vegas. At least I'm not a fucking lying scamming Amway asshole flogging overpriced shitty products and that's not something you can say about yourself. This article is insanely biased. There is a word for what they do in the outside world. When a Diamond dies, he can look back on his life and say, "Ive helped thousands of people make extra money and accomplish their goals though free enterprise and universal success principles and generated economy for this country" When Anna Banana dies, she will say.. "I was a cunt that liked to blog that never helped anyone. LolAmway Ambot so called geniuses, Diamonds whatever.please slam my text because I don't give a shit and won't respond.lol AMWAY = ARROGANT MATERIALIST WICKED APES YAHOOSI am not saying don't join Amway. People get fired. In a so called real job, you work every week until you retire at 65 or so. Do you really want to cancel your registration? Tell us which McD's and we'll be sure to come over and say hi. Answer (1 of 9): Amway diamond income is made up of bonus and commissions paid by Amway and the income earned from BWW which produces Talks and organizes seminars. does this not also include "diamonds"? Get out there, build your business. That's 40%. Amway is not a business, its having so much meaning for those peoples who want to create a Legacy in Life and want to live quality life with changing others lives positively in right direction. Being a millionaire. And all of us love the freedom we have to spend with our family and all the time and money we have now that the Amway cult is no longer sucking us dry emotionally and financially. But disobedient Amway Ambots refuse to believe this information from what they would call a trusted source LOL LOL LOL and search online to find other answers. 1 direct selling company in the world*. A Q-12 platinum (lets assume 10K PV) runs at minimum $360K annually. Anyone can say "..it had help more people become financially free" without any actual proof or statistics other than that's what your upline told you. Someone is yanking your chain. Bad evil people like those in Amway the Cult of Greed go around treating people badly and then justify themselves as being Christians. 2nd Anonymous - yeah what the fuck was that gibberish? ~Osuwariboy. They of course made it seem like they were living the "dream." Its more likely that everyone in the Amway meeting is broke. Well, if it's so great, what the hell are you waiting for? I think the 150 k is a gross figure. Gross or net and with or without a few cash events Diamonds can't afford to live millionaire lifestyles on that income. This doesn't leave a funny taste in your mouth?-Jerry. What kind of revelation is that I ask? You would not get to hear REAL stories like these in the opens, pase or on CDS. Nancy was a full-time nurse. You'll notice on every page of Amway's books they're forced to print "the average monthly earnings in 2012 was $84". Hi Markee. Yo. It is only concerned with getting me to sign up, and pay for CDs and books and functions for the rest of my life. Amway's own figures on their literature show only a small fraction of 1% IBO's make money. I join this buisness 1 month ago. This list currently numbers now over 2400 and is not exhaustive, with Amway reporting in 2004 that more than 4000 businesses had qualified at Diamond or above. I find it hard to believe that there is a massive number of Amway folks doing that well. means 10,000 Group PV by team. The first sentence of this post says the same thing as the small print of the Amway literature,150k. Diamonds don't make 150kthose are emeralds. However you Amway "Christians" worship the Great Amway God and worship greed and material things so you're really fucked up in your twisted religious beliefs.This blog is all about transposing how people in Amway treat the rest of the world and sling it back at them. And why must they only do amway and sit at home on their asses?American sport stars have the same lifestyle as diamonds.. earn a fortune for a few years and then they get too old at 35. FUCK OFF!!! You can't be polite because Ambots won't back off. You decide whether or not to believe the assholes in your Amway upline or what Amway has in the small print of their own literature. I even recall when diamond bitch brought her closet full of fur coats so we lowly people could try them on. And tbh amway rules and guess who doesnt rule thats right its you. Im pretty sure people who make the same amount of money spend 10 years in school. Your post highlights the problems with doing maths based on poor knowledge or false assumptions. All of those people getting false hopes that one day they can live large thanks to this scam. TheWhiteafroguy - all over this blog I write about our involvement with WWDB aka World Wide Destructive Bastards. Sick! How do you structure your work ? Here's what I wrote at the time in my journal: It took almost 2.5 hours to get there but I made it finally. I dont plan on giving it back to him since he gave it to him. Most people's bullshit alarms go off, and even ones that sign on out of pity end up bailing if the brainwashing doesn't take hold and they do MATH and see they are going to keep on losing money forever in Amway. I don't know what made you guys so bitter, But it really seems like you have no idea what you're talking about. Pay attention we got out of Scamway years ago. Will all find they're way no matter the vehicle. His house, to make an understatement, was huge. Kyle - subjective. The text of Amway Wiki is copyrighted (automatically, under the Berne Convention) by TribeTech AB and Amway Wiki's editors and contributors. I love my freedom to spend with my family. Amway Wiki is one of the most popular Amway related websites on the internet, with nearly 20,000 visitors a month and an awful lot of that traffic comes from people searching for the names of individual Diamonds folk are looking for information, lets help them get the facts! The scam comes in due to the lies ambots tell about the compensation and how they hide how much money you really have to spend each month in Amway, a lot of it on the tool scam. Read that and it'll answer all your questions. "It's quite true: De Vos and Andel tried to rein in the criminal bigshots like Britt and Yager and Duncan and Puryear, all of whom were making a fortune on nothing but signing up new IBOs and browbeating them into buying $300 worth of Amway products every month, without even asking those IBOs to sell those products to the public. And thus their "job" becomes trying to keep those below them inside the pyramid motivated to be "fired up" and keep on losing money month after month with promises of "success just around the corner". The "prosperity Gospel" is a truly sick idea, and completely alien to genuine Christianity. F19 - you Amway "Christians" make the rest of the world sick. A nice racket, isn't it?Any white guy with an Afro must really be weird. Same income. See, i don't love amway. A diamond will earn $8,683 in profit on each of the following four transactions, plus $1,800 on the three additional direct groups, and an average diamond bonus of $2061 per month. It's a common theme across many Amway Motivational Organizations (AMO). She loves and worships her Amway cult leaders more than you so they'll probably convince her the right thing to do is end the relationship. 4:45AM Anon?!? Your email address will not be published. "It must cost them a FORTUNE to have them recorded and copied." During Major Functions, Diamonds speak of having lifetime, will-able, residual income through the ?I'm always amused that it's someone's 'relative' or 'friend' or 'co-worker' or what-the-hell-ever that they know. It takes a special kind of person to be able to deal with an IBO for a spouse because any form of argument against their god will be ruthlessly destroyed. That rule of course only applies to Ambots. Kyle - Amway ambots judge everybody who is not in Amway so this is our little spot on the web where we can just people in Amway. Amway's head office or an Ambot? In fact, 99% of Amway . Wonder how the wwdb cult leaders explain how they took 5+ yrs to get a new diamond. The way to make money is selling CD's and tickets to functions. I don't really check out lip glosses much so idk if the retail value is appropriate. People do not read and comment on blogs that poke fun at things they like. If your wife is an artist you'd think she could switch over to sell her wares on Etsy. It has been much easier to work by far. Anna. The beachfront island resort offers vast ocean views and lively pools and lagoons in a setting for unforgettable adventure. A diamond is constantly on the road so i expect expenses would eat up at least half that. A few years passed and I had started my own business - something that actually created value in this world, when I ran into those sponsors. Its about the amount of effort you put into this business. I can see how that would cost extra but is it viable in the market place. LOL! You missed the part about how good little Amway ambots never say negative. One of my sergeants got into it and took a bunch of us to a rally at Long Beach, CA and it was all a big huge deal. Its just those fucking little Amway assholes that show up here to say that Im broke when unlike their beloved Amway Diamonds I have never had to file bankruptcy or had the bank foreclose on my house. Flexible Payment Options. So while you all are taking about how it doesn't work, people are out here making it work. And does he owe me $50000? I have an excellent credit rating but those fucking Amway assholes that read my blog accuse me of being broke. That's the reality. That's good news for the owners of Amway but how does that affect their lowly paid commissioned salespeople.Ambots also show up here claiming that Amway has made more millionaires than Microsoft or Google of wherever but so far no one's shown up with a list of the millionaires for comparison. They made no mention of her former life as an Amway Diamond. www.bet.com. All of the entries are great, but this one really can be a forefront entry. You will not be able to return to the payment option. Restaurant owners are scum! Yes, a Diamond who follows the instructions, which includes having 10 RETAIL customers every month and builds that ethic into their downline could make $150 K per year. THAT is why they are so hot on recruiting, recruiting, recruiting. I immediately stopped when I found out my sponsor and his wife had been at it for a few years and were STILL working jobs! And this is after quite a lot of truly hard work. The thing is, TheWhiteafroguy, anyone can make up numbers and amounts. First, review the. The diamond money comes from selling the "tools" that the lower level people think will get them "rich" too.Let's be honest. Start at the bottom? but the moral of the post is that if I help you make $4000/month The Amway corporation will pay me $850/month, now what is bad about that? The living room would have been more likely a choice to show someone a business plan not a garage. They became broke and our family vacations were no longer vacations but these stupid "Functions". Facts are not "assumptions". Look at all the people who I helped destroy marriages and brought financial and emotional distress to their lives. We actually see progress. Besides the obvious that you seem a little racist against Caucasians. Likewise some of the Amway leaders have gone bankrupt and houses into foreclosure. Gossip that serves no purpose. I have to agree with Theo, I have a different perspective though. I've had many children of Amway Ambots leave comments here about how Amway destroyed their family. I can say that I sell pencils on the corner and made 12 million doing it last year. And the small print that shows the small percentage of 1% of IBO's who make money at Amway and ask them about that. A diamondship is made up of as least 6 platinums. Like your Amway pipe dream?Haters always hate? See just a few of the former Amway diamonds who have left the business. You do get rewarded. You are worth it, and your family is worth it! With a 99% failure rate no one who isn't brainwashed and have looked into the math of this "opportunity" could possibly call it a solution to anything other than further enriching a tiny portion of folks at the top of the pyramid. Bitterness will eat you up. Good bye biatch. They are currently Founders Crowns. Diamond do make 150K a year FROM AMWAY. Save big with the world's largest selection of diamonds. Do you believe in yourself? He doesn't know how to say Amway Tool Scam!And didn't afros for white guys go out of style sometime during the 80's! And I'm talking a low quality chocolate. 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